In my many years of teaching high school, I have seen all types of students. Noora, a student from Pakistan, was one of the most special students. She was definitely one of the most intelligent I have had. She also had an extraordinary work ethic and interpersonal skills. When other students in her class had difficulty with any subject, Noora was there to help them. I thought she had a very bright future. Knowing her strong skills and knowledge in math and sciences, I thought she would go to a prestigious university. One day I decided to talk to Noora about her future plans and I was shocked by what I heard. She said that two months after graduating from high school, she was going to get married to the son of a family friend. She did not seem very disturbed by this. I went to talk to Noora's parents to explain to them what a great student she was and why they should reconsider their decision to marry her at such a young age. I told them that what they were doing was unfair. The very next day Noora's family sent a formal complaint letter to my school principal stating that I was being disrespectful their culture, and that it is their business to decide their daughter's future, not the teacher's. I was devastated when the principal informed me about this. I thought I was being a good teacher. I still do not want to give up on Noora's future. What should I do?
You are very right that some cultures do encourage early marriage. Also, it isn't always necessary for young brides to give up their lives and futures just because they got married. I had a friend once who was part of a religious denomination that encouraged early marriage (to prevent sexual impurity); she got married at eighteen, went to college, and now works a job using her degree. She and her husband are also still married. Because of that experience, I think it's so important to talk WITH the parents and not AT them; the teacher really did not know the whole story, before he or she passed harsh judgement on the family and their culture.
I like your idea of discussing future plans with an entire class. Perhaps he could have set up some type of career day or college fair in which the students could have explored possible futures. Ultimately, the decision is Noora's. If she would like to continue her education, that is her choice. If she would like to marry someone right after graduation, that is also her choice. As teachers, it is not our job to insert ourselves into situations and tell our students how to act. Instead, we are asked to give students all the information they will need and allow them to make their own decisions.
I never thought to share graduation opportunities with an entire class. This is a wonderful idea. Some students only know what their family places in front of them; therefore, mentioning this to everyone would let her know that she has different options.
Wonderful solution. I like how you suggest the teacher discussing secondary education with the entire class in order for all students to be addressed, even Nora. The approach the teacher took left Nora's parents feeling disrespected; the teacher should have simply discussed Nora's potential in the future.
Chris Clark, I liked how you stated the importance of teachers talking with parents instead of at them. I feel that this is a common mistake made by some teachers. It is so important to understand each of your student's backgrounds and cultures. I feel that if the teacher had truly known the student and her culture, the teacher would not have approached her parents in such an impulsive, judgmental manner. Moreover, I liked how someone earlier mentioned that the teacher should conduct a class discussion regarding post-secondary goals and how they may differ based on culture and family background. Students could discuss how socioeconomic status, personality, and other factors influence post-secondary goals.
I didn't think about that. Good idea to apply a whole class presentation about THEIR futures. You are right about it "planting a seed." This is a good solution.
I agree that teachers should have a basic understanding of their students culture in order to be understanding and sensitive of their beliefs. I do not feel like the teacher had ill intentions, but he definitely should have been more cautious with how he approached Noora's parents. I would discuss with them how bright she is and different opportunities for her future, but I would not have made any statements regarding the teachers opinion, such as it is not fair to make her marry young.
I like your idea of discussing college plans with the entire class. This would get the information to the student without there being any further one-on-one contact that could offend her or cause her parents to become offended further. I think it is important that she understand her options and the consequences of her choices, but I definitely think that it is not the place of the teacher to try to influence her one way or the other.
I absolutely love your idea of discussing the idea of future plans with the class as a whole. I think this is a great way of not singling put Noora, and keeping the rules that need to be kept between teacher and student.
Just because she is married does not indicate she cannot go to college. Many people do it. You just need to sit down with her and give her some good post- secondary ideas. She will have to make her decisions but further inflammation of this situation will only hurt your relationship with her.
I think your idea for sharing post-graduation options with the class is wonderful. Some students may not know what is beyond graduation for them and they need to know that there are many paths they can follow.
Talking to the entire class about their future is a good idea. Maybe if Noora decided to do this on her own and gave her parents reasons why, they would at least listen to her argument. Noora does not know any different, and maybe she actually wants to go to college but just does not know it is an option for her.
I agree that the approach could have been different, but I do agree with discussion her future with her and not her parents. Parents of cultures like this are very set in their ways in my experience, but the children are open to differences being made. Nothing says that after Noora is married she cannot continue and have a bright future.
I like how you mentioned that the approach taken did not take into consideration Noora's culture's or beliefs. Never did the teacher ask her parents why they wanted her to get married. There are actually some valid reasons why a young person might get married after high school that has nothing to do with her being treated unfairly. After they shared their opinion, it opens the door for the teacher to share about Noora's potential and post-high school options, but in a respectful manner.
I completely agree with your solution. Instead of telling the family what they were doing was wrong, he could have laid potential opportunities she could have as a strong academic student. He maybe should have researched their culture to see the cultural correlations with her post-graduation life decisions.
I agree that the teacher involved did have good intentions but they ended up being insensitive to their student's culture. The teacher should have discussed only her educational prospects without getting too involved with what the parents should or should not do, especially if the daughter is not against the marriage. Sometimes you have to realize that you do not have any control over what happens after school. You can only motivate them and educate them as best as possible.
You provide a valid solution. I agree that the approach taken by the teacher was not considerate of the student and her family's culture. I am sure that they felt very disrespected and offended. You provide a great point about the teacher simply mentioning to the parents the potential the student has after high school. The parents would be more acceptable to this approach.
I agree that the teacher's comments were a bit impulsive. Instead, I would have requested to meet on school campus with the parents alongside the school's guidance counselor. I would have asked Noora and her parents what their goals for Noora after college and describe Noora's academic and social classroom skills. Finally, I would suggest the idea of post-secondary education for Noora as an additional option for after she graduates high school and mention how many post-secondary institutions offer online courses and other alternative methods for completing a college degree. I would have ended the meeting by assuring the parents that as Noora's teacher I would support any post-secondary goals she and her family had for her, but that I wanted to make sure they were aware of all of Noora's options.
The first sign that this might not be an issue for the teacher to bring up is that Noora was not worried about or disturbed by the fact that she was to be married at a young age. This is common in a lot of cultures, but because it's not common practice in the United States, we often perceive it as strange or inappropriate. The teacher meant well, but it is never our job to tell a parent that the way they are raising their child is unfair. Unless they are doing something illegal or harmful, it's their business and their child. If a teacher came to me and told me the way I was raising my child (to not go to college, choose a technical career) was "unfair", I would probably be a little upset as well. The teacher could have approached the parents to praise Noora's success and potential and that she could achieve anything, but at the end of the day...that's not his decision.
You make a good point...I agree that telling the parents they were being unfair lacked concern or consideration for their culture. I also agree that the teacher should have asked "Why?" before discussing the fairness of their decision. I also think the teacher might have asked Noora what she wanted rather than going straight to her parents. Maybe she was not bothered by the fact she was getting married because she wanted to be married. Marriage does not necessarily mean that Noora will not meet her full potential either. Many women are married and go on to pursue their education and career later.
It is true that their culture does not need to be disrespected or questioned by the teacher. Maybe if the teacher did just tell them facts about Noora's grades and her potential they may would begin to see things differently or at least take some of what the teacher is telling them to heart.
I agree, before even going to her parents, I would have discussed the whole situation over with my principal first. There is nothing that a principal hates more than to be caught off guard with an angry parent.
I agree that speaking to the parents could have occurred in a more positive manner and been done more respectfully of their culture. You are right, I do not think that the two outcomes - marriage or school - are mutually exclusive. It would be a good idea to talk to Noora and her parents about this as an option. And of course, in the end, respect Noora's decision.
I like the idea of the teacher writing a letter to the parents or setting up another meeting to apologize for any disrespect and explain that was not the intention at all. As the teacher, I would elaborate on how bright and intelligent Noora is and her possible future potential.
I also think that this approach was a bit disrespectful to Noora's culture. This is something a teacher really needs to consider when talking to students or to parents.
I like your way of looking at this situation. It is absolutely possible for Noora to get married at a young age and still be successful. I would make sure she is aware of this and discuss college options with her. If she is interested she can discuss it further with her parents. I definitely think that as a teacher we have to be careful with what we say, how we say it, and who we say it to.
Giving Noora the information about possibilities for careers even if she is having to marry at a young age. She appears to be fine with this arrangement so having options for a career will be interesting to her. Considering her expressed desire to help her peers who struggled with certain assignments, I can see her working in a field to assist individuals in some form or fashion.
I agree that it also seemed disrespectful. He had all good intentions, but he could have gone about it another way.
I agree with your approach. I think that he can still look out for his student without pushing his ideals on her culture. In the end, Noora's parents choose how to raise their daughter, and the teacher can only try to present options to the parents. If the teacher disrespects the parents' culture, they may just stop listening right there, and then no one is helped.
It is apparent that you are a very reflective and thoughtful person. I believe you are absolutely right in the suggestion of a formal apology. This alone shows Nora's parents that the teacher is reasonable and able to own their mistakes. I also think that the follow strategy you suggested is an excellent solution. Perhaps, depending on the subject, the next unit could take a look at post-graduation plans and preparation for those plans.
I agree the teacher had no business talking to her parents about marriage and how wrong that decision is for Noora. I too would have set up a parent conference, and we would have discussed the positive things about Noora. We would have discussed her grades, the contributions she makes in class, and how all of this could potentially lead her to going to a great school, and becoming very successful. I would have left it at that.
I agree showing the parents her bright future without even bringing up the marriage is probably the best solution. It is ultimately the parent's decision so the teacher can only present the information and hope for the best.
I agree that it is unfortunate, but we as educators do not have a say in what happens after school is over. I also agree that the teacher should have discussed what her education aspects were and only discuss with them the educational side of things. When you veer to far into what should be done because of culture, it is easy to sound insensitive or rude.
I agree that the correct intentions were had but that it did come across as harsh. The conversation could have gone much better had the teacher come at it from another angle, presenting options, not judging!
The point that you brought up about doing college on line is a great solution if it is something Noora is interested in.
I really like that you suggested a focus on the stories of people that chose to attend college. I think this could be made even better by selecting stories of people whose circumstances made it difficult to do so. In either case, I believe it is important that Nora makes the decision for herself otherwise you are no better than her parents.
online college is a great idea. Some cultures want their wives to stay at home and this would give her a chance to get her degree and be a stay at home wife.
I agree with you Paige. She does not have to go to college to be successful. Showing Noora what other options she has within the marriage might be the best thing that she ever learns from you as a teacher.
I probably too would have just talked to Noora, but I would not have tried to talk her out of getting married or presented college and marriage as things which are mutually exclusive. My wife and I married when she was a sophomore in college and she went on to finish college and get a graduate degree. I have several students currently who have been dating for 3 years or more and another student who is "courting" (dating intending to get married) and all of these couples intend to get married soon after high school and attend college together. When I talk to them I just ask them what their plans are and let them talk offering "Have you thought about..." suggestions.
I agree that the situation should have been handled differently. I stated in my solution that he should talk to Noora about the importance of college, but I think it's a great idea to talk to her parents about how successful she is academically and how important it is for her future to go to college. As educators, we are faced with parenting decisions we won't agree with and sometimes there won't be much we can do about it.
I think you raise an excellent point. College is not for everyone, and not everyone even wants to go to college. I do think that everyone has the right to pursue what makes them most happy. Maybe Noora would like to attend college but does not know how to tell her parents. The teacher could find a way to hold a conference with everyone and discus possible schooling options for Noora after high school if that is what she wants. Having the teacher sing her praises and show Noora what her talents can get her may inspire her to go to college. However, she may not want to attend college, and that decision is one that the teacher must also respect.
I agree with your suggestion, although I doubt I personally would have any more contact with her parents on this issue. I would be concerned that they would see this as more meddling, and I would hate to create a situation for the principle to have to deal with.
I disagree with you. It is one thing to tell a parent that their students is a great student, it is another to tell the parent that they are being "unfair". The teacher in this situation jumped to the conclusion that just because a student was getting married their future potential was over and their parents were treating the student badly. Even if the teacher believed this there are certainly more diplomatic ways to have handled the situation.
I love your idea. I agree with leaving the subject of marriage alone. This is something the teacher needs to steer clear of. I believe letting them do their own research would be beneficial to the parents and Noora.
It is your job to care for the students and I believe you have don that. I just do not see how further inflaming this situation will solve anything. The student will have to make those decisions.
Wow! What a wonderful way to look at this! I have known many intelligent women that have forfeited their right to go to college because they truly wanted to be a stay at home mom, take care of the home, and help their husbands be more productive in their jobs. I cannot think of any of them that were "judged" because of their choices, but wouldn't it be interesting to see if there would have been judgment if they would have been from a different culture. A teacher's job is to prepare students to be productive, life-long learners in the society, not to counsel students on what they should do after graduation. That is a different job title. The world needs all types to continue to be what it is.
I do agree that he went overboard with his approach to the parents. I do believe he was thinking about the best for the students, but we need to respect their decision and cultural beliefs.
I agree that the teacher should have been more considerate of the family and their culture, but I do not believe the teacher was purposely being judgmental. I believe the teacher had very good intentions but could have been delivered in a more respectful manner to the family.
I agree with this solution that says it was ok to talk to them about their daughters education but when you say the word "unfair" about a decision they made that's when you cross the line. Regardless if you think something a parent does is unfair or not you have to be careful with the way you handle it and approach them.
This is a great way to approach the idea of furthering one's education without literally stepping on one's toes. Because of their cultural perspective of marriage immediately following graduation, I highly doubt that Noora's parents would allow her to attend the field trip, but by offering it, you have opened a door for her that might have remained closed forever.
I like your idea of apologizing to the parents! I think it is important for the parents to know that the teacher was not trying to tell them how to parent their child, but was also trying to keep Noora's best interest at heart. I also said that it was important that the teacher talk directly to Noora. I would not try to change her mind, but I would present her with pros and cons of each scenario.
I agree with your advice. Apologize to the parents.
I absolutely agree. Going to the parents was definitely overstepping and there is no coming back from that.
I really appreciate you mentioning respect. I think that is the key to this situation. You are right, as the teacher, you should respect your role as teacher and the parent's as parents. They are not asking Noora to do anything physically harmful or, it even seems, against her will. I also agree that talking to Noora should be a priority. Yes, ask her why she is choosing marriage; explain your opinion; then respect her choice.
I also agree that he overstepped boundaries there were other ways that he could have gone about it.
I completely agree. I said something similar in my solution about--did her worlds have to be so separate? Also I liked what you said about the teacher needed to learn the culture. I think the teacher was disrespectful as well. It seems like he should have respected the boundaries and also taken the time to hear their viewpoint and learn about the culture before jumping in and jumping to conclusions.
I totally agree with you. As educators, and educators that CARE, we like to see our students excel and make good choices. As you eluded to, this just isn't our place. We can only lead the horse to water.... :)
I also agree that you should respect their culture and their discussion. I do think it may be ok to talk the students again and let her know that she can go to college and get married, but her religion may believe in the wife staying home, so you have to be careful how you approach it. In the end we should respect the culture.
I agree that a meeting should be held to present her parents with Noora's strengths and potential. I think even supplying a list of a few potential colleges that were near home or online may have been a beneficial addition.
I like how you mentioned meeting on school property instead of going to the home. I also think having the guidance counselor sit in on the conference is a great idea.